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For Classified Ad Resulli BROOKLYN EAGLE, SUNDAY, DECEMBER 18, 1938 Telephone MAin 4-6200 Old-Timers' Letters Stir More Memories About Pals and Places 6 Suggests Collating Old Timers Data as Historical Records Tod Colvin Recalls Athletes of Yesterday, Pays Tribute to C. Jaeger, Baseball Sponsor Boy With Good Memory Writes in Editor, Old Timers: stitution. How eagerfully. yet wistfully do the Old Timers kindle the fires of memory and vainly try to Coney of Cay '90s Great Showplacc Reader Tells of Famous Who Mel There When Life Was Young Editor, Old Timers: In your issue of Dec. 11 Frank Thompson asks if there are any old soorts around; yes, there is one who claims to know about as much as anyone in regard to Ernest Bader introduced the knack of wearing the coat collar up at all times as an indication of a man-about-town! Woo-w-o-o! The Spalding's football, basketball and baseball teams were among the leaders in those days and our set-tos' in the first two with the famed old Trinity Club were things to remember.

Trinity players were Strom, Fisher, Merket, Nelson. Owens. Robb, Cassidy, Kelly, Spoerle and Gallagher. Amateur Baseball at Park And who can ever forget what a character of fair play and baseball loving soul was Charlie Jaeger who was the first to organize the amateur baseball league at the Pro.spect Park Parade Grounds back in 1902. He was its president as long as it lasted.

He was also interested as backer of the Lamont Club and though he nearly cried when the team lost, it was more for the feelings of his players than for the loss I received my baptism of that grand national pastime, baseball, at old 44 and a few years later was looked over by Clark Griffiths, then an American League manager. I was 16 at the time and weighed about a pound and a half, so with that schoolboy wonder, Jack Knight, setting the baseball world afire for the Highlanders I guess Mr. Griffiths couldn't see putting in too many children. However, three years later I was purchased from the Montreal Club for the Cincinnati Reds by Mr. Griffiths.

Fine Athletes, All Pardon me. but I'm getting away from the old Bedford section in which was located the Spalding Athletic Club. (Where are all you members?) We had clubrooms over the famous Edwards' bakery at the corner of Madison St. and Nostrand Ave. A gang of fine athletes these boys were George McKay, Stump Conklin, Howard Moore, George Maseley, Fred Kucke, Sheldon Wildes, Charlie and Ernie Hadewig, Harry, Bill and Artie Morgan, Alec Mitchell, Jim McDonald, Ray Mac-Donough, Bill Ockert, Russ Baldwin, Bob McQuade, Jim Galbally, From Downtowner Editor, Old Timers: To Old 6th Warder Yes, well do I remember McKeon's on Warren also Gaffney's on Congress where Billy Nixon and Eddie (later Captain) OToole spent many hours.

I also recollect McGivney's feed store on Columbia St. near Pacific St. 3. daughter was married to Captain Kellett of the old 3d station on Congress St. near Columbia Street.

Do you remember when Barney Kane's store was on the lot next to No. 29 school and the Church of the Pilgrims Sunday School wax on Warren where St. Peter's Church is now located? Wonder If you knew Jim Burke who collected rents for the Frost estate and who played baseball in the late '90s with the Allentown team before his arm went bad. I hear he is still going strong In the telegraph department of the New York Fire Department. How about Charles O'Neill's beautiful black horse and Hughie Donnelly, the iceman, remember? ANOTHER 6TH WARDER, Ties That Bind Editor, Old Timers: To Annie Leinfelder it was very nice of you to answer Nellie Wyckoff's letter about Kouwenhoven Lane School as I did not know who the teachers of that school were or from where they came.

The DeNyse family that I came from lived in the DeNyse Homestead on Kouwenhoven Lane right near where it made the turn to Bay Ridge. The names of some of the DeNyse boys were: George, Simon, James and Jacob and the girls: Lydia and Tillie. Jacob was my father. I had completely forgotten about the Leinfelder Jou.se until I read your letter in tli? Old Timers' page, Wasn't your house a little north of the Manhattan Beach Railroad on the west side of the Plank Road? Your folks had a lot of ducks and geese which when they got to screeching could be heard for miles around. I also recall the dog that was tied in your front yard and the old wooden pump.

Nice meeting you after all these years. CHARLES HARRY DeNYSE. 1634 E. 38th St. At St.

Augustine's Editor, Old Timers: To H. T. P. I was one of tin? early pupils of St. Augustine's school at 48 and 50 Park Place, and remember all the nuns.

In fact I had a very good pull with Sister Camilla who was Editor, Old Timers: It is needless to repeat the feeling of mast every one who reads the Old Timers' page but to say that it is a mast enjoyable Sunday pleasure. It should take many years off any one's age at least for the moment to be led back through the years to days of youth and gaiety, of familiar do ings and goings, of old haunts and famous old faces. Yes, Brooklyn Eagle, you have something in that department of yours and I am sure all enjoy it as much as my family does each Sunday. I am from the old Bedford section. Charlie King sent in a piece about it recently we both are products of No.

3 school, as a matter of fact, old No. 3 was a favorite with me as much as was No. 44 from which school I was graduated. Recalls His Teachers I remember a few teachers, too, in that old school at Madison St. and Throop Ave.

Here are their names in parade: The Misses Crawford, Mathias, Gelssling, Tucker, Mr. Howell and good old Pop Fraser of the graduating class. I regret to say, however, that I cannot recall the name of the soft spoken, fine man who was principal. He rewarded me with a military life book for my efforts with a drum in sounding the two school dismissals each day for several terms. Assisting me in this task was a school buddy named Stookey who played a fife.

Does any one remember this two-man band or the principal's name? shine of memorable days that won't shake off as he sits with his companions in Tompkins Park. Borough Hall, or some other such gathering place. Reallv. he is only A BOY WITH A GOOD MEMORY. Columbia St.

Years Ago Editor, Old Timers: To Mrs. J. Wohetjen Well do I recall Columbia lived there for 25 years. At one time we lived next to Meyer's dry goods store and I worked for him as a clerk for three years. Schumacher's candy store Is also listed among my remembiancep.

I came near being one of the family. Remember any of these: Wright's drug store on the corner of Union and Columbia Youch's dry goods store. McCormick's meat market. Lents' dairy, Levy's candy store, Emerson's shoe store, Hudson's bakery and Emersleut's opposite the grocery stores on the corner of President I recall the green hill bounded by Hicks Rapelyea Henry St. and Hamilton Ave.

Can any Old Timer stir a few memories about the candy store called Taffy Bucks? Hamilton Ave. from Henry to Columbia Sts. was nothing but a shantytown in my time. Old Places of Interest Other places I recall: The market on the corner of VanBrunt St. and Hamilton Keelers coal yard, corner of Hamilton Adams' lumber yard, the Brooklyn sugar refinery.

Atlantic flour mills, the hotel on the corner of Union St. and Hamilton Ave. called the Brooklyn House, the pumps on Sackett Union St. and President St. near Hicks the baseball grounds on Smith between Sackett and Carroll and the two teams, the Stars and the Atlantic's.

I remember when the East River came up to 3d between 35th and 40th and when it was all country from 35th St. to the foot of Hamilton Ave. Many a good swim I enjoyed at Seely's bathing beach and also at the foot of 60th St. Could relate many more happenings in Brooklyn dating back to 1865 but it would take too much space in the Old Timers' page could probably fill a book. H.

W. DENZIER, 845 Maple Oradell, N. J. Hub Collins Editor, Old Timers: To Jim D. Was it not Hub Collins that played second base for Brooklyn, and he was killed in a collision with Darby O'Brien? J.

F. SNILLOC. Mrs. Pfal.graf Editor, Old Timers: Does any Old Timer remember Mrs. Pfalzgraf who lived on Warren She had chickens and used to sell pigs feet, 10TH WARDER.

Editor, Old Timers: As a young reader of the Old Timers' page in the Sunday Eagle and a member of a historical society. I am surprised that such a wealth of human and interesting history as finds its way into that page each week has not been brought to the attention of those societies who have Brooklyn's old and valuable historical data pre served for posterity. It is not the dry, musty facts and accounts published many years ago and leaving so much to the imagination; but the vital, warm and pulsing history of Brooklyn in the days when life was mellow, great things were in the future (so wej thought) and family life was an in some more of the Peck family linen to the breeze, and I was particularly interested in that portion of the communication reading as follows: "My great-grandmother often in Summer took parties of grandchildren and friends to Coney Island, huge picnic baskets on either arm, or to Green-Wood Cemetery, lunch being eaten while seated on the graves or stones." Now I happen to have in my possession a pass dated Oct. 18. 1862, issued by Gieen-Wood Cemetery, signed by J.

A. Perry, admitting one family, except on Sundays and holi days. Printed on the face of the pass are the following rules and regulations: "Persons having refreshments will not be admitted. "Smoking will not be allowed. "Baskets and like articles, and dogs must be left in charge of the porter.

"No flowers or shrubbery of any kind may be plucked. "Any person disturbing the quiet and good order of the place by noise, or other improper conduct, will be compelled instantly to leave the grounds. "Visitors are reminded that these grounds are sacredly devoted to the interment of the dead and a strict observance of all that is proper in such a place will be required of all who visit them." Miss Hazen does not mention the year in which her great-grandmother indulged her picnicking pro clivities in Green-Wood, but it must have been prior to 1862, because, under the rules quoted above, it is apparent no such goin's on would have been permitted subsequent to that year. Is it possible that trouble "by the Peck." having descended, the ceme tery' officials were forced, in 1862, to adopt and enforce strict measures governing the behavior and purposes of visitors to these sacred grounds? WALTER W. KOHL.

435 Bay Ridge Parkway. OM.Flatbiir.li Farms Editor, Old Timers: Your Old Timers' page brings back many tender recollections of happy days spent in old Flatbush. Who remembers the farm and pigs of Edward Kinsley at Troy Ave. and Malbone the farm of Edward Sinnott next Kinsley's place: the old St. Matthews' Church on Schenectady The first mass was said in the home of a man named Peter Murphy.

There was a family who lived in a house at Sterling Place and Aiuany oown in me nonow. 1 think their name was Bishop. Is that right? Remember Foster's yellow house at Douglass St. and Albany Ave. with its long grapevines and peach trees: Sharkey, the barrel man on Degraw St.

and Albany the woman who picked up everything and stacked it up in her yard at Degraw St. and Schenectady Ave Remember Steamer Pond on Malbone St. near Bedford the 40-foot pond on Carroll St. near Brooklyn Lyons Pond at Troy and Eastern Parkway, where we would fly kites: the Mid wood ball team: Phil Bonerwood. Jim Knight, Joe Hart and John Fitzpatrick? A few other places: The golf links at Kingston Ave.

and President McMullins' store at Albany Ave. and Montgomery where we caddies could get our fill of candy with or without money our credit was thai good; the Utica baseball team? WILLIAM LEONARD. 117-64 142d Place, South Ozone Park. We Had Track Team! Editor, Old Timers: T'l Elmer Smith It was with a great, deal of delight that I read your letter of Dec. 4.

By the way. Elmer, where do the Gardner boys and Dan Weaver get the idea that the P. S. 12 track team of 1910 was so hot? We youngsters of 1912 had the real team! The relay team composed of Corrigan, Brosseau. Smith and Doyle could, to my mind, beat that team of George Gardner, consisting of Gibson.

Moran, Mayer and McManus. In fact, I think we could beat them today if we could locate Jimmy Cor-rman and they could NOT locate Kurt Mayer. Have often wondered what became of Mr. Lewis, our athletic director. Do you know? Enjoyed reading the letter from Miss Usher who was our graduation teacher in January, 1913.

The class included Jim Devine. Fred Paulsen, Walter Fernan, Walter Price. Richard Short anc'. a number of others. Yes.

Miss Usher, it was a grand old school and it gives one a thrill reading about the gmnd old times we had. To Hume Was nice hearing from you, too. Best regards. Would like to hear from more of the boys. HAROLD C.

DOYLE. 1209 Bushwick Ave. Irish Jubilee Editor, Old Timers: What Old Timer knows the verses to the song. "The Irish Jubilee." which Johnnie Carroll used to sing in Zipp's Ca.sino on Elm Place? I would like to get a copv of them. ROBERT T.

KIRKLAND. 67 Fort Greene Place. Your enterprising success lr; bringing together on your Old Timers' page each Sunday Brooklynites from all walks of life, from all sections of that wonderful borough, with all sorts of memories and interesting facts going back over the years, is extremely commendable and should encourage you to keep It alive i'or many years to come. As an old Williamsburger I recall the Wall House, which was a well-established hotel on Bedford Ave. (4th St.) ar.d S.

4th the wood-den fire alarm tower on N. 1st east of 4th Langdon, the bell-ringer, who, in addition to ringing the fire alarms to indicate the location of the conflagrations, also tolled the curfew at 9 p.m. each day as well as the noon hour and 5 p.m.; his brother, Mike Langdon, a attached to the 5th Precinct, whose record of 25 years or more on the force without an arrest I believe established a record that has not been exceeded if really equaled; Captain Woglom, the commanding officer of that precinct, with whom I used to march religiously each day at noon from the corner of N. 1st St. and Bedford Ave.

to Grand St. and Bedford a prodigious distance for my four years but in these days a mere step; Elwin S. Piper's Grand Bazaar at Grar.d St. and Driggs where the Christmas window display on the Driggs Ave. side of the store held the neighborhood kids spellbound each of the dozens of times each Christmas period we would stand hours to witness; Wilson's Pork Store on Driggs Ave.

and S. 1st Ernstall's dyeing establishment on Grand Sandak's haberdashery on Graicl James Moloney's saloon at N. First St. and Bedford where the empty ale barrels were the tempting playthings that attracted us in pretending mountain climbing. Moloney's, I believe, adhered to a strict policy of not selling liquor to a man already blooming, His place was closed or: Sunday; it had no family entrance, his back room wis a reading room and his free lunch consisted of cheese and crackers.

Then there was Kleinteich's book store on Bedford Ave. near S. 3d Mrs. Kline's jewelry store and Bryan's undertaking establishment on the same block; Daley's fish market or. Grand St.

near Bedford Ave, with the stuffed monkey mounted on the wall; Carney's fish market on Broadway near Roebling where Mrs. Carney took cash; Holmes' book store, opposite St. Mark's Church on Bedford Ave. near S. 5th Smith and Gray's; John S.

McKeon; McCormick Knox (I think they are still on Broadway near Bedford Dan iel the plumber; Henry Gissel, the tailor; Relyea, the undertaker, with the painting of Lincoln's funeral cortege in his window; Mahlstad's saloon; Shoening's candy store; Kochler's drug store-all on Broadway, between Bedford and Marcy Aves. Of course, many will remember the tow horse that used to help draw the crosstown line cars up the grade from N. 2d St. to somewhere about S. 3d along Bedlord Ave.

And speaking of horse cars, any old Williamsburger will surely recall the glorious picnics to Prospect Park via the Lee Ave. horse cars the change of horses at the Crow Hill penitentiary at, Nostrand Ave, and Crown St. the convicts who were allowed to work outside those grim walls; trie steamer pond on Malbone St. all observed before we reached our destination, which was at Malbone St. and Flatbush where we were greeted by the cries of the boy venders calling: "Lozenges cent a pack, six for five' and then the walk through the Willink entrance of the park, passing the goat carts en route to the picnic grove and the horse-drawn merry-go-round.

Some of your earlier recorders mer.tioned Dr. Haskins, rector of old St. Mark's Church that stately, ivy-covered, stone structure at S. 5th St. and Bedford but they didn't mention the fact that Dr.

Haskins and his sexton, David Longworth, had served continuously for 50 years or more; that they both handled the stones that went into the church walls and that Dr. Haskins' wife was buried ir: the churchyard. Nor did they mention Dr. Kennedy, Dr. Haskins' able assistant for many years and his successor; or the Long-worth sisters, Kate, the choir mother, and her sister, Mary, and Mrs.

Vanderwerken, another sister. I hope this will not appear to be too lengthy or indicate that the writer is a garrulous old codger baskir.s in his dotage in the sun- Can You Name Editor, Old Timers: Here's a little something about my old neighborhood, Bushwick and Myrtle where I spent most of my boyhood from 1874 to 1888. We lived in a house on Troutman near Bushwick owned by John (Pop) Smith. It had no improvements of any kind, such as heating, lighting, bath, toilet or running water; but, then, what could you expect paying only $12 a month rent for a whole house? Our water was obtained from a pump on the corner which would at times run dry, especially in the Summer when the young folks would stop for a refreshing drink on the way home from the many picnic parks along Myrtle namely. Myrtle Ave.

Park. High Ground Park, Ridgewood Park and Bushwick Grove on Bushwick Ave. and Grove St. Pop Smith lived on Bushwick between Myrtle Ave. and Troutman and next to his abode was a row of single-story stores.

One was occupied by Charles Saunders' shoe store, another by an eccentric character whom we called "Kip, Kip, Blow Your Horn," and who used to rha.se us with his shotgun. Then came the candy store of Mrs. Schaeffer, who had two sons named Weinrauch. Henry and Jake, and one son, Theodore, whom we called "Newsy." The boys ran a printing shop and later published the Brooklyn Blade which had quite a circulation at that time, capture the sparks in their reml nlscences of the past. Could it be possible for an organ lzation to be formed sponsored by either the Long Island or Kings County Historical Societies to preserve such valuable data regarding people, landmarks and localities of Brooklyn, long since gone? I hope to see the day when Brooklyn wakes up to see her hls-toricaj value and hastens to pre serve it.

More power to old Brooklyn. CARL H. JENSEN, Historian National Railway Historical Society. 1103 E. 34th St.

Remember Pigtown Editor, Old Timers: To H. Reichenbach My father often spoke of Detective McCurdy, said he was feared by bad men and most always got his man. Do you, by the way. recall that part of Brooklyn around Carroll St. and Rochester Ave.

which was called "Pigtown" because of the many pigs raised there? Before the Ice plant on Atlantic and Rochester Aves. was built, that site was known as Stony Park. Was is prior to your time? Can you recollect that lovable character, Mike Burke, or Mr. Wit- thorn's saloon? I remember F. Harding, principal of P.

S. 83. Billie Burke was truant officer, the boys all tried to keep shy of him. Father often mentioned the goldfish pond you spoke of which was formerly located on the present southwest corner of Schenectady Ave. and St.

John's Place and then known as Douglass St. Do you remember Joy's bakery on Fulton St. and Ralph Ave. or Dempsey's shoe store on Myrtle Ave? M. GREGORY.

Won't You Write, Girls? Editor, Old Timers: It gives me great pleasure to pick up Sunday's Eagle and read the Old Timers' page as I was raised in St. Peter's parish in the old 6th Ward. Would like to hear from some of the girls I knew from Baltic between Hicks and Columbia namely. Tessie Keenan, Nora Casey, Ella O'Brien. Mamie Early, Nellie Tracy, Katie Gannon, Molly McEall.

Katie Keating, Josie O'Dea and Maude Daly. Who rememberes Kea ting's gla.ss store on Amity St across the way from the police station? AN OLD TIMER. This Is From Ida Editor, Old Timers: A few weeks ago some one from the old 6th Ward inquired about the Ida and Jennie Association this is Ida writing now and plenty alive. Does any one remember the La-Poska picnic with Ida Cronin and George O'Hea leading the march? Surely Mike, the printer, on Boerum Place and Dean should be recalled by Old Timers born around 1873. I lived half a block from the Tiffany Place fire that was mentioned Dec.

4 and I certainly do remember it. Who recalls Tommy Conroy. the hark driver from Court and Union who used to run around with smithy? IDA iCRONIN) O'HEA. In Old Eastern District Editor, Old Timers: To John S. Ryan I recall lots of the names you mentioned on Nov.

13 as I was born on S. 3d St. in 1860. We lived there until I was 10 or 12 and then Mother bought a house at 85 Taylor between Bedford and Wythe where we lived until I was 18. when we moved to 5 Bedford Ave.

in a house owned by my brother-in-law, Edward S. Seeley. Went to No. 16 Wilson St. school.

Some of the teachers were the Misses Wilcox, Brown and Blark. Can recall the driving of cattle up Division R. M. Howe's store, where I bought all my furniture when I was married (57 years next Mayi: Latimer's on 5th Quade's, the Novelty Theater, the Lee Ave. Academy.

Wright's, Minden's, the Wheat Hills and Livingston's at Bedford Ave. and Taylor St. I was one of the organizers of the old Williamsburg Athletic Club, first located at Wythe Ave. and Perm St. and later at De Kalb and Classon where we had a full block for a track and the old Kouwenhoven Mansion for a clubhouse.

In 1905 we moved to Flatbush with All Souls Universalist Church, of which my father-in-law, Benjamin W. Wilson, was president of the board of trustees. George Ric-ard, first president of the board, was also an organizer and first president of the Williamsburgh Savings Bank ia towering monument to his memory). The bank was organized in the basement of our first church on the corner of Bedford Ave. and S.

3d St. My mother was very much interested in the Industrial School and Home on S. 3d between 4th and 5th and was treasurer of the Board of Ladv Managers for some years. FRANK M. PRICE.

485 Westminster Road. Editor, Old Timers: I see where A. L. Bennett wants to know who remembers the gas tank that was struck by lightning at 4th and Smith Sts. A friend who used to live on Degraw St.

tells me she heard about the "gas tank matter" years ago but wisely omitted telling "how many years ago." The brave man who shut off the gas received a big reward. He later had a couple of homes built in the old 10th Ward. Who remembers the Hagerty Bros, glass factory on Smith I recall meeting John Moran near there; he was one of the Superivors of old Brooklyn. Does anyone recall Tommy Wynn whose folks lived on Court He was an affable chap and a swell dresser. He worked for Pete De Lacy, the gambler, and later became a bookmaker.

JOHN McGARIGLE. 8614 4th Av. and his three sons, George, Fred and Charles. George married Frank Erzinger's daughter, Charles married Blossom O'Brien (daughter of John J. O'Brien of political fame during the '90s) and her brother married a daughter of Judge Patterson and later purchased from me my residence on Henry Coney Island, and was later accidentally shot by Harry Sturtevant who later married the widow.

Bader's Hotel at that time was a famous meeting place for noted racehorse people and also for the young people of the Island during the Winter months. Many a night have I spent there dancing and yes. drinking to a cert '4 in extent, as wild parties were taboo in that place, but they were good times at any rate and by alL Good Old. Coney I lived at Coney Island from 1878 to 1900 and was employed by John Y. McXane as a carpenter.

I assisted In the reconstruction of the Sea Beach Palace on its removal from Philadelphia which was afterwards made into a roller skating rink. also had charge of the erection of the pavilion that held the first wooden cow at Paul Baue's; also saw the elephant built and later went into business built 10 houses for Henry Hamilton, the noted stage coach man; did considerable work for Frank I. Frayne, the rifle shooter; was closely associated with the Ravenhalls, Stubenbords, Til- vous, the Basses, Floyd S. Sanford Charlie Overton, the VanSiclens, Dominie Stockwell and the John I. Snedeker family of which I later became a member.

The Vanderveer Girls Does anyone remember the Vanderveer girls, Lettie and Katie, the latter married Joe Balmer: and also the five or six Vanderveer boys, Jim. John, Abe, George, Frank they were a Jolly lot. Then there was Doc Chambers and his wife, Charlie Tor-mey, Dick Newton (later Judge Newton), Kenny and Bob Sutherland and A. R. Coles, leader in so many of the Old Folks' Concerts at the Brighton Place Chapel.

How many are living today? I never run across any of them any more but would like to hear from or see any of them if they wish. HARRY J. GOLDSTON, 6735 Ridge Boulevard. Down on 'Tobacco Road" Editor, Old Timers: Perhaps H. T.

P. would be sur prised to hear that one of the former pupils of old St. Augustine's School is now down in the "Tobacco Road" of Georgia, the poorest parish in the State. It would make me very happy to hear from H. T.

P. or any other former pupil of old St. Augustine's. Incidentally, tell H. T.

P. to drop a line also to Charles E. McDonald of 99 St. John's Place. The REV.

JOHN A. MULLINS, Pastor, St. Paul's R. C. Church.

Douglas, Ga. Overplayed Prank Editor, Old Timers: Wonder if any one recalls the following incident which took place about 65 years ago; Horsecars of the Court St. line went up 25th St. and on the return trip came down 24th St. One day five cars were Sidetracked on 24th St.

Some boys who were playing on them loosened the brakes. The cars started down the steep hill and Jumped the tracks at 3d crashing into a cigar store and newsstand owned by a one-armed man named John Fox. Attending the store at the time was Mary Fox. a daughter, who was also taking care of her sick baby brother. Both were injured slightly.

Old Dr. Buell ministered to their needs and they were soon all right. If either of them (the Foxes) are now living, I would like to hear from them through the Old Timers' Page. JOE CREIGHTON. Old Rope Walk Editor, Old Timers: Some weeks ago an Old Timer asked where the old rope walk was.

Well, in 1871. we lived in a cottage on Classon Ave. where Park Ave. is today i Park Ave. didn't exist at that time).

There was a large field belonging to the house where I kept 60 chickens and next door was a small farm run by a man named Mulling.s. Back of the field were two mulberry trees. 30 feet tall, that had white berries the size of blackberries. The people from the neighborhood would help themselves to the berries and make delirious mulberry wine. Back of all the houses on Classon Ave.

was the old rope walk. A one-story building ran from Flushing Ave. to Myrtle and alongside was a four-foot walk known as the Tucker Rape Walk. Opposite was Jackson Hollow: it extended from Flushing Ave. to Mvrtle Ave.

and from Classon Ave. to Rver-son St. Below was the Frith Bros, bundlewood yard and the old village schoolhouse. Further down was the old transfer station and the Rockwell leather works, back of which was old Wallabout Lane which led to a small cemetery. On the other Bide of the junction of Classon Ave.

and Kent Ave. was Dugan's sawmill, and across the way stood the large book bindery and printing building of Daniel Appleton. Who remembers the old homestead of D. Johnson and the Happy New Year's Day celebrations of 50 years ago? J. W.

FERRIS. Picnicking in Green-Wood Editor, Old Timers: Reference is made to the letter from Edna Hazen, printed in the Brooklyn Eagle of Dec. 4. in which that self-confessed spinster flings of a game. He was truly a grand guy.

The Spalding baseball team entered and won the pennant in 1905. William Kistler of the Fraternal Club was vice president of the league and Frank Zundt, the secretary. One of the hardest workers for the league who died in the center of his activities was Norman Cochrane who developed a great kid team in the Brooklyn Boys A. C. in South Brooklyn.

His passing was a deep wound in the organization. More anon. TOD COLVIN, 85 Lawrence Ave. the McCreerys and the Hornbys? Some, of course, must have passed to the Great Beyond. Do any of the survivors remember: the long-handled wooden pump on Lewis where one could get a delicious draught of cool water on the hottest days; and the beautifully shaded block on Lafayette Ave.

that made such a perfect summer playground, or the two apple trees on the blind side of Mr. Abbott's house, that furnished cause for colic almost as soon as the fruit was formed; and the big cherry tree in Abbott's barnyard whose luscious crop was so tempting? These come vividly to mind, with many other scenes, especially of No. 17 fire engine answering an alarm leaving its house with clanging bell, and with an awful clatter of shod hooves and iron tires on the uneven cobbles, trailing a dense smudge of black smoke and brilliant sparks in its wake. We were all happy kids in those days, without a thought of what the future m'ight have In store for us. 21ST WARDER P.

S. 3 Boys Editor, Old Timers: Glad to read about P. S. 3. which I attended.

Who recalls Walter Springstine, Johnny Johndeer (the fat boy with curls), Bertie Armour, the Carlton boys and their sister, Kitty; Dolly Hoag, the Caswell boys (one is now a minister), Mary and Jimmy Hallock, the Fisher family (Bessie, who met with a fatal accident), Ethel Hutchinson, the Wil- lard boys, the Hamiltons. Dolly, Vinnie and Lucia Cox; Ed Rass. the Moore boys, Dr. Jones' daughter, Irene; Flossie Sutton and Midge Rivers, daughter of the dancing master whose academy was on Bed ford Ave. and Halsey The old house at Arlington Place was a lovely spot when we moved into the neighborhood.

The stables were back of our house and I remember when the old caretaker (who was then over 90 years of age) chased the youngsters out of the grounds where he kept chickens and a lovely garden of which he was very proud. We boys discovered a very old coach and cannon balls in the stables and he told us one day that George Washington had ridden in that coach and was entertained at the old house during his journey through Long Lsland. I wish somebody could tell me who owned the place in the early days. I remember when they were building the elevated structure on Fulton also when cobblestones were used in paving the streets; the Sun day promenades on Bedford the good times at the 23d Regiment and the lamplighters who lighted our streets at dusk. Cheerio good friends! ONE OF THE HILL SECTION.

Once I Was a Paper Boy Editor, Old Timers: To Johnny Morris I am not so old, only 42, but I do remember the Reilly sisters and the bow-legged man named Jim who used to work for them in the candy store. I suc ceeded a boy named Edgar Bridson serving papers for them to some of the best families in Brooklyn at that time. I also recall Reilly, the butcher, on the corner of Warren and Hoyt was Saturday order boy there. Lived on the top floor of that building. Mr.

Roche drove the wagon, Billy Walsh was the first butcher. I don't remember who was second but the third was Mike Griffin. Would like to know where these persons are Jimmie Conlon. George Kane. George McGullcm, Joe Trav-ers, Bill Moore and Blanche Morris.

Maybe my friend, John Pfalzgraf, could help. Remember me, Mr. Pfalzgraf I am the kid you used to call Sonny: the place was Hoyt and Warren Sts. Haven seen or heard from you since 1916. Where are you? SONNY.

P. S. 13 Grad Writes Editor, Old Speaking of old schools, who attended Public School 15 about, 60 years ago? Mr. Tlllinghurst was music teacher. Some students were Victoria Ericson, daughter of a minister; Julia Gwynne.

Josephine Van Olinda, Augusta Douglass, Minnie Gabb, whase father owned a store Ella Broun. Miss Stewart was a on Atlantic Annie Ross and teacher. OLD TIMER, Gee Atwater, Frank and Bill Moffatt, Charlie Marsh and North, Miller, Griffith, Smith. VanWart. Van-OVinda, Holler, Gallagher and Trav-ers.

Man-About-Town Style When Paddock overcoats were the rage and tan and brown dicers put you at the top on Bedford it was Walter Brooks, I believe, who Stein's Beach Editor, Old Timers: Stein's Beach was located at the foot of 58th St. where the Army base buildings are now; I remember it well. Michael Stein lived with his family in a beautiful house on the hill. His son, Mike, used to run vaudeville shows in the house and also took care of the bathing beach. On Sunday the beach was thronged with about 10,000 people.

I was one of the locker boys; we got no pay but recei 'ed good tips. Johnny Regan, the old time fighter, was always good for a 25 cent tip. The lifeguards were' Peter Frazer and Walter Riley. Influential people patronized the old Castle operated by a man named Connelly for lobster dinners. Art Wardell and Peter Casey used to rent out rowboats.

At 58th St. and Second Ave. Dan Cronin had a saloon and on the opposite corner was the saloon of Old Man Barton. Mrs. Bentle's candy store was nearby.

Does any one remember Herman Bondasher who had a grocery store at 59th St. and Second When "feeling good' he would stand in the doorway of his store with his rifle and shoot holes in the eagle atop the flag pole on the carbarn across the street. Who recalls the Mohawk football team from 58th St. and Second Ave Some of the players were: P. McGough, the Moore brothers, Dan Qulgley, Harry Hike, Percy Wallace and one of the Casey boys.

Can you conjure any thoughts concerning the following: Charlie Hart, the landloard, and his son, Jimmy; the Caseys who were in the moving and trucking business, the Boys Club, the Shamroclc Club at 59th St. and Second and their boat rides? Those were, in truth, the good old days. THOMAS W. CASEY. 1713 E.

36th St. Kosciusko St. Editor, Old Timers: Your page stirs memories of a Brooklyn of what must seem ages ago to some of todays youngsters. I have in mind a block on Kosciusko St. in the old 21st Ward.

Sumner Ave. bounded It at one end, with carbarns on one corner and a coal-yard on the other. Between them and Lewis scattered on both sides of the cobbled roadway, were about 15 dwellings. Open spaces were plentiful, and there was no need for municipal playgrounds. On this block, in the late 70s and early 80s, lived quite a group of children, boys and girls, who went to old No.

25 school, and played together or quarreled among themselves, as children are wont to do. None now lives in the old neighborhood. What has become of the Edwards, the Beamishes, the Glens, the Vann Wagners, the Stewarts, Labor Lyceum was later built; Rathman Eggington's tinshop, and Fecke's farm on Broadway from Myrtle Ave. to Lawton St. The Republican Wigwam I also have fond memories of the old Republican Wigwam which stood on Myrtle Ave.

near Bushwick Ave. On Election Days we boys paraded in uniforms, carried torchlights along with the older folks, and shared in the beer and sandwiches which were given to all at the finish, whether you were a Democrat or Republican. My father at that time had a restaurant in the basement of the old Franklin House, a large hotel, which stood on the corner of Broadway and Myrtle opposite the carbarns. Remember These Boys? I would like to mention In closing tho names of some of the boys I knew in the long ago, chiefly Joe and John Buckholtz, Frank and Eddie Burns, Bill and John Eger, August Kraft, George (Red) Kelly, John Ploeger, John Sutter. Charlie Jackson, Matt Dougherty, Ed (Hop) Smith, Alex.

Killlan, Billy Griffin, Jake Rathman and Billy Egglnton. Some of these old pals have passed away, but I hope that those who are living will communicate with me through the Old Timers' page, so that we could talk over the good old times we had when we didn't have much compared with what we have now. J. OAU3. considered a brilliant teacher.

My brother, Ed, also attended the school. A few of mv classmates were Miss Bird, Miss Maloney, Miss Wagner, Henry Tully. Jack Tully, Dan Dugan, John Farrell and Toomey, the choir soloist. Were you one of the dare-devils who risked missing those old Fifth Ave. trolley sleighing down Park Place hill? Sorry but I cannot make out your name from the initials.

Hope this will keep the ball rolling. BILL CLIFFORD. 920 Prospect Place. Horses in Rowboats Editor, Old Timers: Who remembers when racehorses at the old Brighton Beach Racetrack had to be taken to dry land in rowboats when the tide came in? Recall the Greggins-Costello 60-round fight at. the Coney Island Athletic Club with two-minute rounds? I saw the Brighton Beach Hotel moved three times on flatcars.

ED BLAKEMAN. 3044 Ocean Parkway. Paging A. J. Thompson Editor, Old Timers: Please send me the address of Andrew J.

Thompson, an Old Timer, whose letters appeared in your column some weeks ago. I think he was in A. D. Matthews with me. Mrs.

JESSIE R. SCHENCK. Box 218. Belford. N.

J. (We do not have Mr. Thompson's address but hope he sees this. Ed.) Stagecoach Brought $160 Editor, Old Timers: To Adam H. Schmidt You're right.

My father, John Schlitz, of 720 Metropolitan bought the big stage coach "Pride of the Nation" from William Hamilton for $160. The reins had to be adjusted very carefully in order to handle the ten horses which pulled the stage. The last time the "Pride of the Nation" was out, 25 years ago, I drove into the Brooklyn Navy Yard, picked up about 60 sailors and the Marine Band and took them all to Baucrinfeind's Park on Metropolitan Ave. near Forrest St. For old times' sake, Mr.

Schmidt, send me your address. JOHN SCHLITZ 985 Putnam Ave. Correction Editor, Old Timers: The address of Charles King, one of your Old Timers, was given as 450 Grand St. It should have been 450 Grand Ave. (not OLD TIMER.

Editor, Old Timers: What old fellow or gal remembers the old willow tree on the hill at Eagle and Franklin What a comfort this tree was on warm days, and it was one of the many things of interest in the old Garden Spot Greenpoint. WILLIAM C. SPEARS. Editor, Old Timers: To Nellie Courtney Walsh Spent the weekend in Bay Ridne, and in looking over the Old Timers' sheet I came across your item. Believe me, Nellie, it was like a message from the past I certainly remember all the places you mentioned, especially Hanlon's meat market and Barney Kane's shoe store.

How could I forget Hanlon's? Remember how I used to tap dance to tune he played on the chopping block? And Kane sold shoes that squeaked louder than any other dealer's! Whatever became of Mamie Brun-ner who once lived on Pacific dear Sister Helen and the rest of the mysteries? JULIA MAKER DOYLE. Meriden, Conn. as Many Neighbors Today? I sold newspapers for them when they had the exclusive rignts to do so on street cars and wore a badge on my cap wouldn't be allowed to peddle the papers if the badge wasn't shown. Living on my block were the Feig-enspan family; Lawyer Rogers, his sons, Hugh and John and daughters, Annie and Rose Mary, who I believe were schoolmarms; the Egers, William and John, the latter losing his life in the Brooklyn Theater fire in 1876; Police Captain Buckholtz, his sons, Joseph and John, and daughters, Kate. Rose and Mamie; present Police Commissioner Lewis J.

Valentine; the Sodens, whose son, David is now district tax supervisor and appraiser; the Glauberts, whose son, Robert, became a widely known doctor, and many others more or less prominent. Does This Jog Your Memory? Recall any of these? Andreas, the grocer, corner of Bushwick Ave. and Troutman Keim's grocery, Jefferson and Bremen Treshman's saloon on Junction of Bushwick Jefferson and Bremen Charles Goddards' estate, Bushwick Ave. and Jefferson his sidewalk was made of tar composition and in extremely warm weather one could not traverse it without leaving deep footprints; Van Nostrand place on Bushwick and Myrtle with it many fruit trees which we boys found inviting; Langenbcrg's feed store on Myrtle near where the.