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Ml BROOKLYN DAILY EAGLE, NEW YORK, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1931 Yale's Week of Rest Before Harvard Game Flaunts Camp's Theories 26 A 'Toe Hold' on the Game Big Crimson Eleven Thrives on Program By Ed. Hughes 1 COLUMI Of Many MM lT That Point After Touchdown FOOTBALL fans, I'm coming to think, are immoderately hard to please. Right along I have been led to bellevt there has been something the matter with the scoring system of the game. These ties, scoreless and otherwise, are unsatisfactory. There should be no such thing as a drawn football game.

One or the other Is obviously the better, and a decent scoring system would reflect this. But that point after touchdown I mean the kicked point. It so often denotes a winner what the great clamor By GEOBGE Cl'RRIE Walter Camp, who, before he died, put together a library phonograph records which exhorted those of us with somewhat wider belt lines than we preferred to "arms forward raise" and all that sort of thing, probably turned over in his grave when Yale took a vacation last Saturday. The father of football was an apostle of the strenuous life. He played six years for Yale alone.

He coached cave-' men lines and battering-ram backs. And he founded a line of coaches that were man-eaters, from George Foster San-'ford down to Tom Shevlin. Sandy was the coach who mad 'his guards lick him first before they could get on the team. Shevlin came roaring out of the West to make Yale snap out of a pre-war lump to beat Princeton. And such was the fire ol the Titan In him that when the team fell apart be-" fore Harvard the week following, 'Tom snapped to one of his friends, you can't make two lemon-' ades out of one lemon." Yale well remembers when Pudge Heffelfinger came back to put some of the old-time religion in the Yale line.

Pudge went out on the prac- tlce field and sent half the Eli first string guards and tackles and ends to the hospital. They were rough and ready In the old days, tackling all comers and even playing more than one game a week. Ask that delightful and spry elderly gentle- man one meet at an occasional dinner at the Yale Club and who answers to the name of Pa Corbin. is for but is It really an authentic tally of genuine supremacy? There Is a thunderous hullabaloo against It In certain quarters, and there are times, I discover, when a majority of the spectators really are satisfied that a tie score actually represents the respective merits of contending teams, The late N. Y.

bowknot Is an example. From my consensus I glean that most of the dispassionate rooters at that game were rather glad that Tanguay missed his short field goal. They contend that on the strength of the general Violet display N. Y. U.

would not have deserved the victory a successful boot would have brought. So there you are. As I say they're hard to please, particularly when the debate soars to the somewhat hazy realms of "logical" argument and points that are "deserved." Mr. Rogers Writes FOR instance, from far off Red Bank comes the following plaint: "'Dear Ed I have been reading your stuff these many yean, and, while do not always agree with your sentiments, I've noted you generally have some interesting angle on sporting questions of the day. "That is why I have been looking for youR attitude on the oft-discussed point after touchdown.

Thus far I havent found It. So I writing to smoke you out on the topic, at the same time to file mine, hoping, of course, it will break into print. "Of course, as far as possible, I think the method of scoring should leave as few tie games as possible. The kicked point after touchdown has decided its quota of contests, and more Still, I don't think It has any sane, fair place in the game. "This is quite largely an individual effort.

It in no way estimate the strength of ten other players on the team, on whom it may foros defeat, if unsuccessful or achieve a victory in other circumstances quit as undeserving. "From this angle it seems to me extremely unfair. For that matter the Injustice could very well be carried to the entire opposing team, which would mount the number to 21 players adversely affected by this venerable but always silly rule. NAME Or HEFFELFINGER CAUSES ACHES But the name of Pudge Heffel- finger calls to mind the real tip-off five yards to make in three downs and this era of the long i gainer, the four downs for ten and i the forward pass. 1 One of the giants of the game was Pudge.

His vitality was that of Antaeus, who every time he hit the bosom of his Mother Earth arose refreshed and ten times stronger. Having come East to wreck Yale's first -string line in practice, he went into retirement, followed by Eli's fervent prayers that he stay there. A few years ago the boys coaxed him out again to play in a Mid- Vest charity game. Pudge tore up and down the field like an untamed mastadon, a wild and woolly foot-; ball player once again. On the side- -lines men marveled at his stamina and women squealed their admira-" tlon of his youthful middle age.

To heart him tell It. he came off that field with his chest sticking out and his ego fit to bust, he was that proud. Out of the Huddle Cites Georgia-N. Y. U.

Game COULD furnish abundant samples of It, but I don't have to go further back than the Georgia-N. Y. V. game 'and I'm not a' N. Y.

U. rooter, Ed). I think you'll, admit that Georgia was Major Tilts Booth Reappear, Yale Hopes Rite New Haven. Nov. 17 (JP) As goes Booth so go Yale hopes of a triumph against Harvard.

The squad's spirits rose noticeably yesterday when little Alble appeared In uniform for the first time since he suffered a muscle injury ten days ago. Booth apparently will be in shape to play most, if not all, of the Harvard battle. wrong thing. The Sons of the Sacred Codfish should be all battered up, stale and gone blah. A diet of Army, Texas, Virginia, Dartmouth and Holy Cross in some quarters has been regarded as too exhausting a preparation for Yale.

To be sure, the thing seems to have turned out just like those experiments with which the chemistry professor tries to show off before the class. The theory doesn't seem to have clicked. Casey has been able to keep the minds of his boys on the next game ahead. The result has been that he has the first unbeaten Harvard team since you and I were young, Maggie. There seems no reason to expect the Crimson will fall into a stupor next Saturday from fatigue, overworry or callouses on the ribs of the blocking side.

ELIS HAVE TWOWEEKS FOR UNLIMITED WORRY Yale, on the other hand, according to the theorists, must have worked itself into a pale sweat over the Harvard game. It will have had two full weeks to worry. So far as the Bulldog is concerned, part of the theory already has been demonstrated. With that rest ahead, the Blue was in a spot to shoot the works against Dartmouth. It led 33-10.

Then the two Wild Bills from Hanover, McCall and Morton, began to touch off their fireworks. And of course everybody knows that the final score was 33-33. One hears some Yale alumni insist that the hiatus ahead made the team overconfident. Another school of second guessers, which includes a large number of Yale graduates, fears that the teartv will soften up from the inaction or last week and this. "Ncthing like competition to toughen them up," I was told solemnly only last Sunday by a fire-eating Yale alumnus who, although he clears his throat to Join In the chorus of "Fire 8tevensl" teems to have done nil his doing and dying for Old Mother of Men on the reserved seats of old Yale Field, the Harvard Stadium and Princeton's playground.

Develop Crimson body should blame Yale for trying it out. Whether the Harvard plan of steaming the team up for one game a week is enough to fire the team for Yale remains to be seen. The psychology departmpnt reports that it has probably taken the minds of the boys off the grand climax and left them fresh for a sterner triumph, provided they can deliver a triumph. Whether the giving of a vacation to the Yale team with its risk of let down in morale and softening up of physique, will bring to the Eli plays the precision required also remains to be seen. It will be a ld lssue xMe next Saturday.

The Blue pessimists are pointing out that a rest period doesn't seem to have enabled Cornell to beat Dartmouth. The optimists point out that it did enable Cornell to beat the best Columbia team in year. I'SEH WARNER SYSTEM Indiana University, under its new coach. E. C.

(Billy) Hayes, uset the Warner system of offense and the Michigan style of defensive I "I Rogers Upset Bv Bo wen in Angle Series Keen Competition in Billiard Events a Crescent Hamilton By ARTHl'R F. JONES JR. J. W. Bowen caused little short of a sensation In the billiard room of the Crescent-Hamilton Club last night when he defeated.

E. J. Rogers, 20 to 12, in the Class A three-cushion tourney, it is very seldom that Ernie Rogers is forced to bow in angle competition around the Crescent-Hamilton A. and it presages either a very warm tourney or a total fadeout for Rogers. More than likely the star will stage a comeback in his later games.

That Rogers-Bowen fray, with Bowen at the top of his game and Rogers not up to normal stride, was one of five engagements in the various tourneys now under way at the Crescent-Hamilton A. C. R. H. Luce defeated L.

J. Weiss, 150 to 78, In the Class A 18.2 balk-line tourney; Dr. A. V. Hazlltt defeated F.

Duller, IS to 10. In the Class three-cushion event, and then stopped E. J. Rogers, on handicap, 75 to 88, In the Class A pocket billiard series; and W. R.

Redmond halted E. A. Lynn, 100 to 16, in the Class pocket tournament. Cbamaco Leads Thumblad Strange as it may seem, Joe Clia-maco, champion three cushion player of Mexico, and also the same man who could not win through the preliminary qualifying round for the world's championship tourney, is now leading Arthur Thurnblad, the world's titleholder, 87 to 83, in their match at the strand Academy. It looks as If Chamco is a much better match player than a tourney player, Char.iaco won the opening block, 50 to 33, in 51 innings.

A high run of seven in the 17th inning gave him the big lead, 26 to 14. after he had taken a small margin in his earlier frames. Thurnblad could never catch up, even though he came through with five runs of three. At night it was a somewhat different proposition, with Thurnblad flashing an excellent high run of 10 In the first inning. By the 15th frame he was ahead, 25 to 10, and he kept going.

Chamaco played somewhat better in his latter innings, and the final score was 50 to 37 in 50 innings. Chamaco't high run was four. The match is of 14 Please Turn to Page 21 outplayed practically the whole game, barring that gallant stand on the one-yard line. Yet, because Catfish Smith happened to be something of a genius at booting field goah, N. Y.

demonstration of ground-gaining superiority was 'rewarded' with an undeserved defeat. "There are other flaws in the game as it now stands, but the kicked point after touchdown is worse than a flaw. It's a fraud and a cheat, and should be scotched at the next meeting of the rules committee. What do you think? STEWART ROGERS. "Red Bank, N.

3." Convincing Argument. I ENTIRELY agree with Mr. Rogers, and have been intending to writ something of the sort for some time. Now I'm glad I didn't and that Mr. Rogers did it for me.

That contention of unfairness to ten other players on the kicker's team strikes me squarely between the eyes. Very likely in the time the subject hat been rummaging about in my rebellious brain I had a subconscious feeling of the kind. But I don't think I'd have fished it out into such a convincing plea as my contrlbuter makes. The rules committee has been industrious in devising means to eradicate, as far as possible, points gained through "fluke" plays. It eliminated running from a fumble, the idea being that it would strengthen ttrategy and reward so-called legitimate attack.

The new fumble rule encouraged use of the forward pass, an unquestionably spectacular play. Still, a good many grid devotees miss the thrill of a picked-up fumble and the resultant scurry of an alert player down the field to the enemy goal line. It may have been a "fiuke(" play, but it could rouse the emotions of the crowd. The Specialists of the Boot THE live fumble doubtless had its elements of "fluke," but to me tt didn't claim half this despised quality at the kicked point after touchdown. I could never understand why the restlest rules commutes didn't attend to that one first.

Mr. Rogers' argument is the more convincing when I recall the lengthy array of kicking "specialists'- who have been dropped into the game to make a kick at an opportune moment and then promptly withdrawn, their "work" done. Harvard had one in Pfaffman a few years back and Army has featured Cadet Broshous in the role this season. Usually, this specialist type is a figure detached from the struggle except for hit few minutes of effort. So why should he have anything like a major say as to which embattled tide deserves to win or lose? I can thrill to good kicking, nor would I depress Individual talent anywhere.

As a kid I went into ecstasies over the exploits of John R. De Witt, and later of Charlie Brickley. Worthy Zone for Field Goal STILL, I can see the argument, of those who believe that field goals of thort length, while fascinating to watch, are overrated as featj of skill, not deserving of sending a hard-fighting foe down to defeat. A team, it seems to me, should be made to rush or forward pass to victory when wlinin the shadow of the opposition's goal posts. That 'i why I think it might be a good rule to prohibit field goals inside the 30-yard line for drops and Inside the 35 ay, for placements.

A kick ought to be a REAL kick if It is to win a game. But that's only a random notion of mine, teeing the current game as an enjoyable spectacle as I do. What'i yourn, old grand-stand master mind? New Mark Set By Dan Dean In Title Chase Penn Runner Covers Van Cortlandt I. C. 4-A Path in 29:23 3-5 By FRANK REIL Dan Dean of Penn went so fast over the Van Cortlandt Park course yesterday in the varsity tix-mile run for the intercollegiate cross-country championship 'that when he set a new record for the lavout, old observers and track followers began to speculate whether the hills and dales had been softened up a bit or whether Dean was a great runner.

To Ted Meredith, who witnessed Dean's great triumph In 29:23 3-5, Dean is "a perfect long distance man." while Abel Kiviat, one-time Olympic hero, thought that the Penn lad "was easy going, like a Finn." On the other hand, it must be pointed out that no longer do the tired athletes have to clear hurdles, and this year the loose pebbles and small stones that have turned many an ankle have been removed. The running paths have been improved so much that one coach, who remembered the "good old days," thought the boys were running over velvet. Sprints too Soon But no matter what can be said on either side, Dean ran a magnificent race to overtake Clark S. Chamberlain on the home stretch and provide one of the most thrilling finishes that spectators have seen in some years. Coming out of the hills.

Chamberlain, the defending champion from Michigan State, had a lead of 100 yeards over Dean. Dean set out over Chamberlain and started to sprint long before he was expected to do so. He said later that he did it against his better judgment, but when he found that he was overtaking Chamberlain without straining himself, he kept on and finally passed Chamberlain. Last year Dean did not run at Van Cortlandt as he was ineligible to compete, as he had dropped out of school the previous February. In 1929 Dean was ill the day of the championship but ran Just to give Please Torn to Par 27 tlnue to assist in the management of the association from a position on the executive Fresh Meadow these days looks like a war-torn battlefield what with trenches dug up the middle of each fairway and criss-crossing one another in crazy-quilt patterns around the various there was, of course, no Fresh Meadow is merely putting in a sprinkling system which it it expected will have the course in even better than usual shape for the national open championship next which recalls the fact that though the open has been slated for a date not later than June 20 the selection of a later date lor the British open puts it up to the United 8tates Oolf Association to decide whether to adhere to its already selected date or announce a Chang to coincide with Britain's plans for holding 1U championship at Prince's next season RALPH TROST.

By HAROLD SONG OF A FIGHTER I'll just keep giving 'em all I've got, As they drive me down the field. My body and soul are black and blue. Back on my cleats, but I'm far from through That's about all that a guy can do, Till he's carried off on his shield. They've got me back on my three-yard line. I'm tired, but still I'm feeling sore.

Nostrils breathing fire and smoke, Reeling around from that halfback's poke. Taking those blow isn't any joke. But those murderous mugs won score! Now they've got me down on my knpes, I wobble around and nearly fall. Somehow or other I blindly reach, Feel a stocking leg and hang like a leech. Then in my ear hear our quarter screech: "First down, gang I Our Ball!" Babe Ruth in Eclipse Not even Babe Ruth is big enough as a mighty batsman and master showman to keep baseball alive through the football season.

The Baltimore Orphan recently appeared in a couple of night baseball games at Oakland, California. But the sunktst sport lovers have evidently forgotten the lure of the home run. They come out by tho high thousands to watch St. Mary's, California, and Stamford throw passes, punt and plunge, but in the two ball games Ruth's circus only drew 750 paid admissions. That didn't give the promoters enough gravy to pay their electric light bills, the games being played at night.

All of which proves what a hold football has on the Imagination of American youth. It isn't that Ruth isn't a drawing card in California. Human nature that thrills to the big punch in sport is pretty much the same everywhere. But this is the football season, with its gigantic ballyhoo, its parading bands, Jammed stadia, gaudily dressed players and the rest of the Fall hysteria, and not even the shadow of the Greut Bambino is going to offer a distraction. What Football Player Eats The old football standards hav been toppling, one by one.

Chrysanthemum hair-cuts and those unsightly nose guards that made a big lineman look like a Maine moose were the first to go. Now the raw egg, raw steak diet lias gone, too. Milk, tea, candy, sugar, wheatcaket and ice cream have been substituted. The next thing the boys will be asking for cake at the training tables. Through the early garnet Coach Eddie Casey built up the Harvard tissues with plenty of milk and tea.

Now he has his athletes chewing hard candy. It was Rockne who used to treat his squad to wheatcakea every Sunday morning. It was the Pitt basketball coach who started the ice cream racket. It's Quite a common sight to see a football play Boxing Bouts Tonight TWENTY-SECOND ENGINIEBt ARMORY, Br.lwy m4 I6J St. Murray Irilll n.

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BURR er in his moments of relaxation nibbling away at a chocolate bar. Football training tables still go in heavily for steaks, but they are not the red and juicy morsels of popular fancy. Usually they are cooked until they are brown and dry. No fried food or pastry makes its appearance, of course, and coffee is taboo, Salads and stewed fruit get a heavy play, Schwarti Has Backers The legions of Notre Dame's friends are resentful of all this sudden acclaim to Pug Rentner, North-Western's traveling Wildcat. Out In the West they are saying that Rentner is the greatest back of the year.

But the Irish are standing behind Marchmont Schwartz. It has become so serious that the fanatics are sitting down at their typewriters and fairly melting the keys with their hot protests. "What can Pug do that Schwartz can't?" shouts one incensed defender of the mighty name of the Irish through the mail. "Can Rentner sidestep tacklers like Marchy? I should say not! Can he pass like Schwartz Again the answer is no, emphatically no. Can he punt like Schwartz? That suggestion is just a laugh.

Because a man can shake loose for a long run occasionally doesn't make him All-American. Why, Rentner doesn't compare with Kea Grange, Frank Carideo or Benny Friedman." It never falls. The harassed foot ball chronicler just has to lift his still, small voice in praise of some player. Immediately, a reader has some favorite of his own, and takes it upon himself to resent the fancied insult. A'o Alibi for Harvard if It Losen Cambridge, Nov.

17 (JP) There will be no alibis in Harvard circles should the Crimson lose the objective game with Yale. Eddie Casey will have his team at full strength with the return of such casualties as Moushegian, Esterly, Talbot and White. MANAGING CASEYS James E. PotUron who is managing the Columbus Council, Knights of Columbus, baaketball quinti this season. j) a.wwVJ 90it mnt But the next morning he found it Convenient to stay In bed.

And the -icv aim tilt? ucav biiu uic lirAt. Ah Jthe end of two weeks he gingerly j-JJttt his feet on the floor and tried out moving nis aming- riDS ana muscles across the room. The great jfudge was definitely retired forth- By himself. "YALE TAKES REST; HARVARD GETS NONE I--The Harvard-Yale test will supply a interesting exposition of two schools of football thought. The Crimson lined up for November -Dartmouth, Holy Cross and Yale In i a row.

Eli opened the month with a scoring spree against little St. of Maryland and then went on vacation. Theoretically, each team did the Major Opponents The fact is that each team most likely has done exactly the right thing. Harvard, rugged, heavy and content to work with a few simple plays by the way, did you notice that the lateral pass, Crk-kard to Wood, was trotted out again againtt Holy Cross while the Yale coaching staff looked on? has gone down bard for the fundamentals. Good eld Haughton block and tackle football has been the Crimson's aspiration.

And man do the boys learn how against major opposition. Yale, on the other hand, has planned a more Intricate attack. Hobbled by the late practice sea- Thr." wreement. the Blue was unable to have it going against Georgia. And oddly enough.

Intricate plays won't improve when tried out against superior opposition. They tend to flop more and nore as the afternoon wears along. The ties with Army and with Dartmouth were in the nature of mental bracers. The layoff after Dartmouth should have given the New Haven coaching staff a chance to polish up its Notre Dame shift and its Hawley pass attack. Plays run from those patterns demand the precision that comet only from practice and more practice.

YALE FLAN OF SCHEDULE EXPLAINED In fairness to Yalt it should be pointed out that the moving of the Princeton date over to Nov. 28 was announced as "an experiment." No- White Sox Heir iReilucinfi Chicago, Nov. 17 (IP Louis Comiskev. heir to the Whit Sox fortunes, is getting ready for the baseball trading sea-ton by taking health treatments In a Chicago hospital to reduce his weight, which to over 340 pounds. He expects to join the new Whits Sox manager, Louis Fonseca, for th major league meeting here In December.

President William L. Veeck of the Cubs has returned to his nfflrt after a trip East, and will talk orer plans with Manager Rogert Hornsby 1 1 wek. OuimeVs Dinners Now Rival Patti Farewells in Number May Limit Women's British, U. S. Golf to Teams of Six Schmelinff in Coast To Coast U.

S. Tour Max Schmeling has arranged another exhibition tour of the country to put himself In condition for his expected heavyweight title defense aganst Mickey Walker in Los Angeles Feb. 22. The German will open hi tour at Boston Dec, 14 and close Jan. It at Oakland, Cal.

He will carry two sparring partners with him on the trip and will box two rounds against each man in 23 cities. The Schmeling-Walker bout, says the Associated Press, still Is up In the air, but Schmellng't manager, Joe Jacobs, already has suggested to Wllllnm F. Carey 0f Madison Bquare Oardcn' that the Garden join forces with California interests to promote the match. The Downtown Athletic Club tenders a luncheon to Francis Ouimet in its palatial clubhouse tomorrow at will make the list of Ouimet lunches and dinners as numerous as Patti's It's a tafe bet that Francis has been tendered one or the other on an average of twice a week ever since he regained hit national amateur golf crown at Beverly early In September. it Is the last of November with Ouimet still the executive committee of the Metropolitan Oolf Association was most cordially invited to attend but the same executives will be busy dining themselves at the Yale Club at the same It now seems that the popular Neal Fulkerson of Cherry Valley will succeed Eddie Driggs as president of the Long Island Golf Drlggs has been president for the last two years Fulkerson has been one of the Jddie doubtless will con-1 U.

8. G. A. officials that such competition would not be lacking in Interest. Indications are that golf't mien were convinced.

If sanction is forthcoming, the first official scries probably will be played in England next Spring with the second in the United Statet in 1934. There is talk already of the possible makeup of the American tram and the names of Miss Collctt, Helen Hicks, the national champion; Virginia Van Wie of Chicago, Maureen Orcutt of Knglewood. N. Mrs. Leona Pressler of Los Angeles and Mrs.

Opal S. Hill of Kansas City have been suggested candidates. International team competition between women players of the United Statet and Great Britain probably will receive official sanction by the executive committee of the United States Oolf Association at Its meeting here Thursday. Present plans call for a bi-annual competition along the lines of the Walker Cup matches except that the women's teams possibly will be limited to six players. Walker Cup teams consist of eight players and two alternates.

Olenna Collet led a team of American women against a British, squad at Formbv last year in an informal test designed, to prove to A.

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