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ircoi.i.v.N 1 H. lll'S. I 13 number of he hi secured for lawytrs. He a'so admitted that Co a thing to a witness ho appeared and u-en w.c he c.dn i know to every question. ccme forward and offer you their co-operation and do various things to help the in a mav to admit hat there as to admit.

There he was not a lawyer. "Do you realize the meaning of the 1 Kl MM-MT NAPni O. Ut Trjity night The? Mir.eola L. I. April 10 The courty found four quarts of gin acd three pil.

e. rorkni- or vVm.ieid bottls of Scotch and a regulation oar, irV- nn J. id- thry said. Dwver as arraigned be-ed bv CrT.rv' Bernard F. tore Justice of' the Peace Wilbur F.

Oree a p. are by Joi Southard in Wantagn and held D-yer. i.n c-x-f at 5 in $1,500 bail lor the Grand Jury. tetm a-ked Kresel. Not Sure Where They SUnd.

Pi-rjoiy and ulmfuu dotsii't 'hem What ir.anes them feel furnv 'All You Gotta Do IsTell'Em, They 'Can't Do Say Nervous Chaser Witnesses "Yes." I "Do you understand it to mean tha- it will tend to convict you of a crime?" v- the fact tiiat they are not iure ol v. here thi-v And taev know pretty eh that eerv who gee: inside tr.at door to testily is going .0 PERJURY HUN re :r.z i.e'.d is yen- small 'rv to clear himself, and doe cart vho goes doun as long as lie i ciered And so the" worry. The: l-ei. They buat. They ure each other on to mighty deeds.

A.l the lan set in at tiie lame time Tne make hem awav tne doors were several thine' I thouaht woulo be wonoeriul fur you to run down. -Weil, that was verv. very nice," smiled Kresel: "and what was the upshot of the conference?" Gaimbarr, Not Interested. "Gainj-burg said It was a serious investigation and that if we er- trying to retain him to obstruct it lie was not interested." He then ent on to tell of ro in the ranks of the negligence lawyers because of the conference. Some of the "boys," he declared, were unwilling to have him lake down their names as among present and two of them charged that he and Gainsburg were "squealers" employed by Kresel to trap them.

Wolf, the runner, a short, stocky, prosperous and keen-looking man, answered Kresel's questions slowly and Dentists tell the three fundamentals of mouth hygiene :v.n at tne end t.f th" corridor. of Ne York's fine lf-a! minds ccr.uvegated at the end of a sunlit corridor Manhattan Supreme Court vesterdav and their owners proceeded to whiiile Mgorously to keep up their couiaee. For the mcl part they were somewhat furtive eyed voung ren'ie-mep whose English was not of but whose knowledge of Continued from Paga on one Arthur Weiser. vaue individual whose adtiresa he aaid he did not know, he declared that hij resignation has never been tiled and tliat he was still a lawyer. Samuel Sprung, a lawyer and Ober-stein's brother-in-law, of 281 Broadway, Manhattan, testified yesterday that he had given Oberstein S7.000 exact suing value oi an scviotiu I do.

Didn't Know He Waa Besl Runner. "Is it not a fact that you mere one of the best runners in town?" Not to my knowledge," with a iauuh. "Is It not a fact that, since you left Schleider a employ, you have made a business of running? lefuse to answer." I it not a fa tiu; von solici'ed for Jeromer In Brooklyn and Manhattan, and that in November and December of 19i6 and January of 18-7 you brought him 700 cases?" "No, that is not a fact." "How many?" "Again I must refuse to answer "Dtdnt Jeromer give you a third interest in every case vou brought him?" "No." Won Tell How Much He Was Paid. "What interest did you receive?" "None." "What were you paid?" "I to answer that question." of the highest. In snort.

tnse the ambulance chasers, worried to a frurie, and waiting until they were rolled Into the hearing before Justice Wasservogel. isn't much for them to do. cioed door tne questions are our Bsiced. and it's there the 'orv is being The best these luminaries of twe can hope for is a him of iiat went or. hen some worried and napie-s mnfeiee conies cit at the end oi his hour with the investigators.

They (an Only Whistle. And thev whistle. Thev tell each ether what they are going to do snd how they are going to do it. They assure each other that thte isn't a possible chance lor the investigation to do them any harm and the history of the investigation so far it that altfr the assurance they trot in and tell everything they know. "How's a guy goin' ter live without lunncrs?" whispers one young man from behind a black mus distinctly.

He appeared to derive great satisfaction in blocking certain ltads by refusing to answer on the ground fiat to do so might incrimi A reporter comes into the corridor and ans in a care-free ay "Wnere's this shyster lawyer hearing? There is a very hollow laugh from our friend' who are whistling. Even when the court at-tenaant corrects the reporter and calls ambulance chasers, the hollow latitfh still rasps through the halls. Anci immediately thev begin "whistling" again. If Looks Could Kill. A man comes oui of the courtroom and goes mto the telephone booth.

Our trier.d with the derby hat geu very angry. "That guy's the reporter for The Brooklyn Eagle." he announces, and if looks could kill, that particular reporterhe wasn't The Eagle reporter would be on his way to a cemetery now. This man with the derby doesn't like The Eagle, by the way. Some of the things he threatened to do in talking to your correspondent to anv Eagle man he met. nate h.m.

Wolf Rests on His Rights. Wolf said he started work only yes terday as a mortgage solicitor fot E. P. Reed of 135 Remsen this boro. He explained that he solicited applications for loans on first How many cases did you secure "They snarieo oi.e uuug man with a derby nat and an accent, "thev can't do a thing.

All you gotta do is just go in there and tell em they can't do a thin. Tell 'em it none of their business. They can't do a thing. All vou gotta do is show yourself. Tell em It none of their business.

They can't do a thing Chants to Keep Courage. Ant" he bit viciously into a half smcrJ cigar and threw the parts auy Then he lighted another. Let Jt out. Walked up and down the vcrlriors. Stuck his hands deep into his pockets.

Yanked them out. Re-Ihhted the cigar. Let it go out you gotta do is tell 'em. They can't do a thing." It seems the courtroom where these lor nam uoiDDergy mortgages. Beiore that, he testinea.

he worked for Nathan Gordon, a I don know." "Approximately?" "I refuse to answer After Wolf had been ordered to tache. "I've been umh' 'em for three years." And the conclave, some 10 or 15. solemnly shakes its congregate head. They agree, do these lawver'. that lawyer, of 299 Broadway, Manhattan.

opinion, that it is not only necessary to brush your teeth, but also to use a dentif rice that neutralizes the dangerous mouth acids that cause tooth decay. Squibb's Dental Cream was made with this purpose in mind. It contains more than 50 of Squibb's Milk of Magnesia an amount ample to reach into all those tiny pits and crevices on your teeth which are inaccessible to any tooth-brush. The Milk of Magnesia thus counteracts the acids, and remains to protect your teeth and gums after use. Squibb's Dental Cream cleans thoroughly, relieves sensitive teeth and keeps the gums in healthy condition.

It contains nothing that can Harm the delicate tissues in your mouth. Yon will enjoy using it. 40e a large tube at all druggists. Well, so It goes, ine lawyers Kept whistling and talking, boasting, try ing produce his check stubs todav. a group of men described by Mr.

Kresel as lawyers' runners were called before the bench and ordered to report this afternoon for questioning. to screw up their courage. "All you gotta do is tell em. Most of these young men will get heir chance to "tell 'em." HERE are the results of an investigation conducted among 50,000 practicing dentists. statements establish beyond any argument, certain fundamental truths about dental hygiene.

It has been their experience that Acids are the most frequent cause of tooth decay and in-fee'ed gums. The most serious trouble occurs at the place where teeth and gums meet known The Danger Line. The best product known to neutralize acids in the mouth is Milk of Magnesia. It is easy to see, from this consensus of professional were ham rass. Han Schaefer.

Herbert Milne. Max Corbin, Al Sam Leblang. Sidney Grayson, Richard Roberts and Sam Fein. BROWN PAINT COMPANY BUiLDING IS SOLD The building at the southwest cor anything is fair, that it's business first, that it's money for the one who to the accident first, that they'd teller fill their pockets or they'll st.irve. "The doctors do it, and whv shouldn't the lawyers?" one of lie assembly begs to know.

Frankly Suspicious of One Another. These men are frankly suspicious of one another, however. They are all afraid that the men who talk so boldly outside will go inside and tell everything they know and more. But they are not suspicious of men who stand around that corridor with them. They seem to think that any one who is there is one of them and should, therefore, be a confidant.

Tney talk and talk and talk, because It is by talking that they keep courageous. They tell secrets and ner of Clinton and Pulton at one time occupied by the Brooklyn Bank and more recently by the Charles Brotvn Paint Company, has been sold for the latter to a client of Samuel with which to pay his swindled clients. He did not know how tniai money was divided, he said. exc pt lor $200. which he paid direct to a lawyer named Rose who told him Oberstein owed two ol his clients tiiat amount.

Under questioning by Mr. Kresel he admitted that he paid Rose on his word alone, without veriiying the facts by consulting Oberstein, and that the payment was made after Oberstein had been ordered to appear In court. Here are the other outstanding developments at yesterday's session: Rough Stuff" Among Lawyers. Moses N. Schletder, an attorney of 200 Broadway.

Manhattan, testifying for the second time on the stand, described the "rough stuff" by which a good negligence case was taken awav lrom hiiri by another attorney named Edward Gordon. Schleider said he had been retained by relatives of a girl who had lost her leg in an accident. He went with the girl's mother to Gouverneur Hospital to Ree her, he said, and was met at the door there bv a woman representing herself to be a social worker at the institution. This woman told the girl's mother that the child would be maltreated at the hospital unless she gave the case to Gordon. The terrified mother did so, he testified, and about a month ago Gordon secured verdicts for $30,000.

"House of Forty Thieves." Schleider also testified that many negligence lawyers have offices at 299 Broadway, Manhattan, and that, because of this, the building is referred to in the profession as the "House ot Forty Thieves." About 10 or 12 years ago, he said, good runners would secure cases for lawyers for weekly salaries ranging from $35 to $65 a week. Those days are gone forever, he declared, and now no runner will "stoop" to less than $100 a week and frequently makes as much as $700. Furthermore, they all demand motorcars "and not Fords." Independent runners sell cases to lawyers for cash considerations ot from $250 to $1,000 on account of from 30 to 40 percent interest to the net fee. Irving S. Wolf, described by Mr.

Kresel as "one of the best runner in town." came to court carefully Tarvos Admits Settling rases. When Tarvos. the bond and mortgage man, was on the stand, he admitted that he had settled negligence cases with insurance companies for Harry Fieldsteil, Louis Rothbard, Joseph Jeromer, Samuel Goldberg, David Bach and others of "the boys" whose names he could not recall. He replied in the negative to Kresel's questions as to whether he had settled cases for Levy Becker, Levy Hartman or Fink Frank. "What are our peculiar qualifications to do for lawyers what they cannot do for themselves?" asked Kresel.

SQUIBB'S DENTAL CREAM Sweet, who acted as broker in the deal The newly formed Brooklyn Bridge Plaza Association occupies quarters in the building. 7 Prieeleii Inrreifient of Er Pradud ae Haw mmJ IuMxria, fo 1 they name names. Jim So-and-So is "And before that wnom did yo'l work for?" asked "I refuse to answer that question." "Why?" "Because by constitutional rights are being violated. It might tend to incriminate or degrade me." Wolf admitted that he had worked for Sch'iider a number of yea-s. but left him in 1925.

Since that time, he said, he had not woTked regularly In any one lawyer's office, but had done work for several of them up to six months ago. Refuses to Answer. "Did you ever work for a lawyer named Joseph Jeromer?" pressed Mr. Kresel. "I refuse to "Well, did you, at Jeromer's request, obtain for him retainers in personal injury cases?" "I'm sorry, but I must again refuse to answer for the same reasons." He also refused to answer when asked if he had secured retainers for Samuel Bloomberg, Charles Kennedy, Abraham Fink, Sid Gondelman and Emil Katzka, all attorneys.

He did testify, however, that he had not secured retainers for Gilbert Stelner or a Mr. Goldfarb of Steiner's office. Mum on Modus Operandi. "How would you operate in gettin retainers in negligence cases for any lawyer?" "When I was sent out to get a recommended case I would go out and pet it, that's all. The attorney would communicate with me, usually at my home by telephone." "When you reached the place you were sent to what would you then do get -the retainer?" ''I refuse to answer on the ground that it might tend to incriminate or degrade me." "Disregard the degrade part.

Do you decline for the reason that it a chaser and he's been a chaser for years. He's looked up the law on such things. He said they couldn't ords anv time Kresel asks himwith the understanding that he is not referring to his own practice. Schleider Vindicates Gainer. Schleider revelations of the evils of ambulance-chasing have completely vindicated the information furnished to The Eagle by Abraham Gatner.

the former runner, which brought about the expose prompting the present investigation. He was asked yesterday to describe any methods of indemnity companies which he thought improper. Laymen, employed by these companies as adjusters, he said, frequently do things which should not be approved by the attorneys of record of the various companies. For instance, he said, a lavman adjuster frequently will adjust a case with an injured person not represented by an attorney and for an inadequate sum. Then, too, when one lawyer has several cases against one company the latter sometimes makes a "lump.

settlement," leaTtrw it to the lawyer to divide in the way most advantageous to himself and not his clients. How Runners Are Paid. "Bar associations cannot read, these laymen-adjusters for punishment," he explained. When the questioning by Kresel returned to the subject of lawyers' runners. Schleider was asked: "What do runners get now?" "Now thev get nothing," laughed Tarvos said that for 12 years prior "iTrffuiattammi to 1922 he had been employed in the claim department of the Employers' Liability Company and that, therefore, the lawyers felt he knew how to judge the liability value of a case.

Stopped Collecting Karlin FunA, He undertook to raise the defense fund for Karlin at Karlin's own request, he said. He was ordered by the Court to prod his memory and recall some of the attorneys he had solicited for contributions. mm He finally remembered Samuel Rob IN EXTRACTIONS keep step with dental science to bring you relief and comfort Dr. D. Bloom DENTIST E.

F. Albee Theatre Bldg. inson, Harry Fieldsteil, Manly Green-wald. Frank Rosenblum and Moses N. Schleider.

"When did you stop trying to collect money?" demanded Mr. Kresel. "After you brought it out la3t Schleider. "A year ago, however, when the handwriting was not on the coached in what to say or rather, DeKalk at Fulton Street wall, they would receive from $250 to what not to say. The majority ol may tend to incriminate your Mr.

Kresel's questions he refused to $1,000 on a smgle serious injury case. Weekly compensation has been out of Ordered by Court to Answer. 'I think I have a constitutional date for the past five years. That's right Thursday that I was collecting." Schleider is by far the most frlerdly lawyer-witness thus far called to the stand. He admitted at a previous session that he could not afford to keep the pace set by other negligence lawyers who employed high-powered salesmanship methods to secure business.

He knows a lot about ambulance chasing, however, and is willing to spread disclosures all over the rcc- nothing but pin money. Nowadays a runner demands and gets, from $100 'Answer the question!" snapped ur)lBi IHAt 9 to 6- Sunday 9 to 1 "U1J1 ToocUrr Mid Thtrndar 9 to 7 Broken ptotea repaired arhile yea wait NTW vom omen Stnet comer 3rd Avmii 59th Stret eorner Lexington AmMt 125th Street cornsr I'srk Avenue ESTABLISHED OVER TEN TEAMS UuMaaiuiiuaa.iiUiaJI Justice Wasservogel. to $700 as a cash advance on a good case on account of an interest in the "Yes, it might incrimtrtaTe me." Wolf testified, in answer to ques settlement to be secured by the tions, that ha kept no record of the lawyer." nf Bif Tmt Capital of I -vacationland- answer on the ground that to ao so might tend to incriminate or degrade-him. Ho admitted that he had received legal advice as to Us "Constitutional rights." For some reason not explained, Justice Wasservogel, at Kresel's request, ordered Wolf to produce in this afternoon all (ubs of checks he hat drawn since Jan. 1, 1927.

Alexander S. Tarvos of 52 Willam Manhattan, descrbed himself as a dealer in stocks and: bonds who "occasionally" settles cases for lawyer with insurance companies. Karlin Defense Fund. He admitted that the was the man who tried to raise a defense fund for Alexander Karlin, the lawyer sent to jail for contempt of court. He raised only $250, he said, and got that from a lawyer named Samuel Ribinson.

although he had told others that "the boys" were donating $500 apiece. Orders Wolf to Produce Check Stubs. Max Mully, an attorney of 225 Broadway. Manhattan, said he arranged the conference ol negligence lawyers at which plans were dls-i ussed some lima ago for blocking investigation by challenging its legality. When asked who prompted a conference he said he "thought" it was his own idea.

Tells of Lawyers' Conference. His own negligence practice has always been "very small," he declared and he has only "four or five" case? on the calendar now. "Did you arrange the conference to help us?" asked Mr. Kresel. "Yes and no." "Of course," smiled Mr.

Kresel. "if there is anything wrong in negligence practice you'd like to see it rrmedlrd. wouldnt yuaT" "Absolutely. I had ideas of my own and suggested that the lawyers see if I. Gainsbtirg would represent them, or at least advise them what to do.

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